An alleged assault by veteran DJ Dave Lee Travis on a female television personality was "aggressive" and not a Carry On-style "playful" act, a court has heard.
Comedian Dave Gorman said colleagues on the Mrs Merton Show told him Travis had "grabbed" the woman's breasts in the corridor of the BBC television studio.
He said the former Radio 1 star had appeared as a guest on the comedy chat show in the mid-1990s when he heard about the alleged attack on the member of the show's production team.
Dave Gorman on his way into court The alleged victim previously told the court that Travis got a "weird sexual thrill" and had an "intense" stare as he squeezed her breasts.
Gorman, who was a writer on the Mrs Merton Show, told Travis' retrial at Southwark Crown Court in London: "I was told that as (the woman) was escorting Mr Travis back to his dressing room, he at some point ...grabbed her t***.
"My recollection was everyone in the team would have known. This was office gossip to some extent.
"My feeling was, if you think back to that time, the idea we'd call the police and say 'Dave Lee Travis grabbed (the woman's) t***', wouldn't have gone anywhere.
"He had been and gone.
"I recall discussions and questions about whether it had been a sort of 'Carry On film wahey', which might be playful albeit ill-judged, or whether it was aggressive.
"My recollection was it was aggressive."
The woman, who was in her 20s at the time of the alleged assault, claimed Travis approached her while she was smoking and commented on her "poor little lungs", before squeezing her breasts.
She told the court she "froze" as she was pinned against the wall by the DJ before he let go of her breasts after 10-15 seconds.
Mr Gorman said the alleged assault "was never at the front of his mind" over the years but it was not something he had "completely forgotten".
Travis, 69, who is charged under his real name, David Griffin, denies two counts of indecent assault and one of sexual assault.
He is facing a retrial on two counts - one of indecent assault of a woman between November 1,1990 and January 31, 1991, and another of sexual assault on a different woman between June 1, 2008 and November 30, 2008 - on which a jury was unable to reach verdicts at a trial earlier this year.
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